Hanson Owner Drivers Uk
Chewyboy wrote:i am trying to get some info reguarding tipper franchises i have looked on hansons website and bretts and few more of the big aggregate and tarmac suppliers has anyone on here done franchise work before what are the pros and cons. What do you have to lay out to start up etc also what sort of rates you get and so on Hi Chewyboy, I couldn't answer your question with first-hand info, but I'd suggest that you look in the O/D's forum and do a search for posts containing 'aggregate' and 'Hanson.'
You'll turn up quite a few posts. I hope that helps until some of the guys with first-hand info answer your post. I'm sure you are right but then I imagine a quarrying company would look to make its money from selling aggregate and would not expect to make a profit from transport, much as the supermarkets do. It has always seemed to be a curious arrangement to me, I suppose it simplifies operations for them but I would still like to get the gen from an OD on this type of work. The Official TruckNet Paraffin Lamp Posts: 16060 Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:02 pm Location: The Narrowboat Desiree, North Oxford Canal. Having been an owner operator for many years having had artic tippers and block crane artic on for quarries but not on contract hire in there livery, I can tell you that you will make a living only but no profit to replace your truck. The reason they use o/d's is they only pay the very minimum for transport.
Signed Receipt confirming you have received and understood the “MQP Haulier Rules and Procedures”, and have issued copies to all drivers. Details of any relevant Health & Safety training certificates that you and your drivers have obtained (MPQC Drivers Skils Card, Drivers Licence and CPC Qualifications Card). Apr 07, 2012 I am an owner Driver for a company called Cemex. I own my concrete mixer truck, but I am subcontracted to them. This is standard practice for the big.
If you damage your truck that tuff you pay for it. If theres no work or theres not a full days work, tuff. They will always make sure there own trucks work to the maximum first and then sub out the crap. An owner driver will set the targets for there own drivers:ie if o/d's can do it so should you be able to do the same.
To be a good o/d you need to drive like an F1 driver to make money and run to and throw the weighbridge and the tailgate. Fuel and tyres will be your biggest expense. Forget it you will earn more stacking shelves in Tesco's.
If you are contracted to them you will not be able to back load from other quarries etc. As a Hansons franchisee you are paid per mile both ways if you are on planner, usually in Hansons favour. Some days you might make a few more kms than you have done but not often. You are also paid for the load and waiting time after 30 mins waiting (premix and asphalt tipping sites) as long as you haven't arriver too early at the tip. The 8 wheeler I drive earned about 90k gross last year doing 91,000kms and about 1100 jobs, after fuel, tyres and other costs plus my wages, my employer won't have made a massive amount. They do have a few trucks franchised so must make it pay somehow.
I am employed and from what the O/Ds say they don't earn a great deal more than me and they have all the hassel of repairs serviceing etc. Semtex wrote:There was a guy on here a year or two back got badly stung by Hanson on the franchise scheme. Bought a brand new Hino with a tarmac body.
I think he only got about 1 weeks work with it over several weeks and ended up bailing out. Tipperdriver01 was his user name. Try searching for his posts that doesnt suprise me semtex for the single owner driver it looked a hard way to earn a living i think the good money was earned years ago before hansons took over and now its all owned by heidelberg i have noticed they are repainting all castle cement tankers in hansons colours SENIOR MEMBER Posts: 1257 Joined: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:56 am Location: derbyshire.
Chewyboy wrote:thanks for the replies checked the other forum but cant find anything got a number for hanson general operations south off google so gonna them a call tomorrow Unless you really want to work yourself into the ground with stress stay WELL away from ANY O/D franchise scheme from a quarry operator. There are plenty of posts from a year ago on the O/D forum about tippers being stood with no work UK wide.
Look in CM and see the price of used 8 wheeler tippers/mixers,what does that tell you The quarries will push you to 'RENT', sorry I mean own a new one at £90k+. Harry Monk wrote:Re the above two posts, I have never understood why anyone would go down the franchise route, apart from the vanity of thinking you own a truck when in reality you have just hocked your house to take one on on finance. So how come then I have been there, made a lot of money out of it, and sold the truck just before the recession started, because I had the vision to see what was coming, rather than risk starting to lose cash. As I said to the OP, get in touch and will talk you through the system. SENIOR MEMBER Posts: 1008 Joined: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:52 pm. I looked into one and the following put me off; - I didn't think the finance rates are particularly good.
- The insurance is horrifically expensive, you can't organise your own - you have to do it through their 'approved' insurance firm. Captive audiences don't get a good deal. - They will give work proirity to trucks with bigger finance payments on them, thus encouraging people to have new trucks on HP all the time.
- The franchisees run on the same rates as everyone else. - They take the pee with a 40quid a month 'documentation fee', a large part of which is what other hauliers get for nothing. - Basically felt it was all in their favour. They even wanted 1200 quid to paint the [zb] thing in their colours! I'm not knocking the lads thatgo down this route but if you get too many of them in one place, then any advantage you might get is cancelled out because everyone is a 'special boy'.
Also, the quarries can dictate totally the rates. 'Due to cost pressures, we're cutting them by 4% etc'. Nobody says a word because they are scared of having their wagons pinched back off em and so everyone gets poorer.
Also, you might find that certain makes of truck, body, sheeting system etc are 'encouraged' and others aren't allowed.usually unofficially of course. You do get a nice shiny motor though. Coddy wrote: The reason drivers were stood down was because of the recession, and lack of building, sod all else.
Ex OD 75k per year, OK. But you ain't doing it now, neither am i, ok i earn't £50,000-£60,000 a year but that was before any payments out etc (did you mean £75 net take home ) and i was one of country's highest earners on the type of vehicle (According to the office staff and they knew everyone's wages before we did ) I know several O/D's who went down 'i'll have another truck/make a killing route', all are back to 1 truck or out of the business now. I was asked many times to take on another truck, always 'No thanks'. In the not so old days it was a truck each, then when they couln't get drivers you can have 2-3 whatever you want. I am doing a 'bit' for someone with 10 trucks, who is happy to muddle through making £20 a day per truck average, £50 k a year for 10 staff and all the mither doesn't seem worth it.
I do 37 hrs now, 30 days hols + banks etc and am not much worse off, probably a few grand a year made up by 'helping' out now and again. Choose your business well and you may be ok, when i showed a business advisor the contract they advised don't touch it with a bargepole, contracts are supposed to be amenable to both parties not one over the other SENIOR MEMBER Posts: 1220 Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:41 am Location: Leanin' on the armco.
Hanson run 2 payment systems, 1 is the straight forward tonne/mile basis where you are paid by the radial mile,the second is planner, you are paid I think £45 per day attendance then something like £13 per load plus a mileage rate depending on how large a truck you run and they are all the road miles you cover. I have some franchise trucks and its a bit thin at the moment particularly the 6 wheeler but the construction job is still on its arse so we cant expect to do anything more than survive. We are a company with our own workshop and I drive 1 myself and I would not like to get into it at the moment unless I could put about 50% down on the truck and have lots of luck. A fag packet calculation put my running costs on my 6 wheeler at £1.24 per mile and I do runs at £1.15 that loss has to come out of my salary and I dont take a fortune out. Mark SENIOR MEMBER Posts: 252 Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:59 pm Location: south shropshire.
Hanson is the world's leading producer of construction aggregates (crushed rock, sand and gravel) from the land and sea. In the UK, we operate 47 quarries and run the largest fleet of marine aggregate dredgers in Europe. We supply aggregates for a variety of construction uses including ready-mixed concrete production, pre-cast concrete, brick and block manufacture and asphalt production. We also produce specialist sands for glass making, horticulture, agriculture and leisure.
We are also able to offer an extensive range of specialist aggregate products, including: industrial sands, agricultural lime, SUDS (Sustainable Urban Drainage Systems) aggregates, and sea defence aggregates. We also sell sand and gravel to other precast and ready-mixed concrete manufacturers and to the general market. Distribution We use road, rail and water to distribute our products. Our core road fleet of 1,200 liveried trucks is operated principally by self-employed owner-drivers under a franchise scheme. Hanson are one of the country’s largest users of rail freight, moving over 2. Free Software Program Kasir. 5 million tonnes of aggregates a year from seven rail-connected loading points to 12 distribution depots. We have our own fleet of locomotives and wagons operated by Mendip Rail Limited, a joint venture company formed to manage aggregates distribution by rail. Barges are used to supply production facilities alongside the River Thames.